So close to Onederland!

Sabrina J.
on 5/26/17 7:57 pm
VSG on 04/10/17

You are awesome to reply! I will not be so stressed out and certainly we are not the only ones that the 3 week stall lasts for 3+ weeks. I am getting tired of what I typically eat - so I am going to change it up. I do not think I can drink another protein shake and what you ate back them looks about what I am told I can eat. Thanks again and get out of the 200's!!!!

Cathy H.
on 5/26/17 8:04 pm
VSG on 10/31/16

You are very welcome, and I will! lol

If you like tuna and fish, then that is definitely the way to go for your protein. You get the most bang for your buck with them, and I ate a lot of tuna and tilapia during that time. Try to get all of your protein in with solid protein if you can, and only have the liquid protein if you have to.

I actually stopped doing the sweet protein shakes at all for some time. If I needed to supplement protein back then, I mixed unflavored protein powder in some beef broth. SO much better than the sweet stuff. I used beef soup base because it has a better flavor than broth. Make sure you mix the protein powder with a little cool water first, then stir it into broth that is less than 140F or it will curdle.

As far as I was concerned, that was the ONLY way to have protein powder!

Good luck!

Livin' La KETO Loca!!
134 lbs lost since surgery, 195 overall!! Initial goal reached 9/15/17, (10.5 months)!
5'3", SW*: 299 GW: 175 HW 3/2015: 360 PSW* 5/2016: 330 *PSW=Prog Start Wt; SW=Surgery Wt

M1 -31, M2 -10, M3 -15, M4 -16, M5 -8, M6 -6, M7 -11, M8 -8, M9 -8, M10 -4, M10.5 -7 GOAL

(deactivated member)
on 5/27/17 8:57 am
RNY on 04/18/17

Hey, I'd love to hear more about how you do Ketogenic after surgery. I've always maintained a high-protein, high-fat, low-carb diet, but all of the bariatric literature I'm given emphasizes LOW fat. This is really hard for me. I'm not following it closely. My genetic profile stipulates that I am as likely to lose eating complex carbs and low fat as I am eating high fat and low carb. Of course, I prefer high fat and low carb. And I've noted over the years that I tend to lose and maintain more easily without the carbs.
I always like to learn how others do it. Thanks for sharing!

Cathy H.
on 5/27/17 10:57 am, edited 5/27/17 3:59 am
VSG on 10/31/16

Personally, I would not have started keto any earlier than I did. I didn't start until I was about 5 months out, and I had lost nearly 80 pounds by then. Before then, I just didn't feel that there were enough calories in what I was allowing myself to get the fats in that you need to maintain keto ratio for ketosis. The major goal the first several months is to get that protein in, and since you can't eat very much, I stuck to my plan's high protein, low fat, low carb guidelines.

When I hit 4.5 months, I stalled again, and that's when I figured I wasn't taking in enough calories anymore, so I need to increase them. I had been at 600 cals until then, and upped to 800 for a couple of weeks. Then I decided to switch to keto, and upped them to 1000. That way I was still able to get my 60g of protein in, but could get the fats in as well. I was at 1000 when I saw the surgeon, which is what they had wanted.

I stayed at 1000 cals for about a month, but decided that was too much. By then I was used to what I can and can't eat on keto, and was able to drop back down to 800 cals and still meet my protein and fat goals. My keto ratios are 60% of cals from fat, 30% from protein, and 10% from net carbs. At 800 cals, that works out to 53g fat, 60g protein, and 20g net carbs per day.

Livin' La KETO Loca!!
134 lbs lost since surgery, 195 overall!! Initial goal reached 9/15/17, (10.5 months)!
5'3", SW*: 299 GW: 175 HW 3/2015: 360 PSW* 5/2016: 330 *PSW=Prog Start Wt; SW=Surgery Wt

M1 -31, M2 -10, M3 -15, M4 -16, M5 -8, M6 -6, M7 -11, M8 -8, M9 -8, M10 -4, M10.5 -7 GOAL

(deactivated member)
on 5/27/17 1:47 pm
RNY on 04/18/17

Thanks for the run down. I appreciate you taking the time. I will most likely go back to Keto when I get further along in the process. I live for olives and cheese and avocado. Since I'm allergic to wheat and any refined carb puts weight on me when I even look at it, trading carbs for fat is an easy exchange. I'm only getting in about 600-700 calories a day, but I'm not staying as low fat as they preach at my center. They have almost no fat at all in their meal plans and suggestions. I include avocado and olive oil and small amounts of cheeses at this point. It's still difficult to get down the necessary protein right now. Thanks, again!

Cathy H.
on 5/27/17 2:07 pm, edited 5/27/17 7:08 am
VSG on 10/31/16

You are most welcome! And yes, the refined carbs are terrible. Refined and processed carbs have not been in my eating plan since the beginning. I'm a carboholic so I stuck with only complex carbs to keep from being triggered. That's part of why my transition to keto was so easy for me.

Livin' La KETO Loca!!
134 lbs lost since surgery, 195 overall!! Initial goal reached 9/15/17, (10.5 months)!
5'3", SW*: 299 GW: 175 HW 3/2015: 360 PSW* 5/2016: 330 *PSW=Prog Start Wt; SW=Surgery Wt

M1 -31, M2 -10, M3 -15, M4 -16, M5 -8, M6 -6, M7 -11, M8 -8, M9 -8, M10 -4, M10.5 -7 GOAL

Donna L.
on 5/29/17 8:21 pm - Chicago, IL
Revision on 02/19/18

It's pretty easy to stay low carb all of pre-op, never mind keto. We are low carb. Even if not adding fat, that still will keep you in ketosis.

Purees were very easy to stay keto... I had many a pureed beef w/avocado. Soft foods are easy too as there are many keto-friendly soft foods.

I think "modified bariatric keto" is probably closer to 50/50 protein/fat macro wise. Even so, you can easily do it at lower calories :)

It's actually more advantageous to eat lower fat keto for us, since we then use our stored fat. I mean, I don't eat low fat foods. Just most slim people on keto add a ton of fat. Since we have naturally low ghrelin post op, and way more fat tissue than them, we can do keto just fine without adding extra fat.

Everything I eat is full fat dairy and meat. Avocados are a staple. I don't do fat bombs, but I probably will after I revise to a malabsorptive procedure since I will need way more extra fat.

I follow a ketogenic diet post-op. I also have a diagnosis of binge eating disorder. Feel free to ask me about either!

It is not that we have so little time but that we lose so much...the life we receive is not short but we make it so; we are not ill provided but use what we have wastefully. -- Seneca, On the Shortness of Life

(deactivated member)
on 5/31/17 10:29 am
RNY on 04/18/17

Yes, you are right. I learned Keto from a thinner friend who is a weight lifter. Clearly, I can't do Keto the way she does and lose fat. All good tips. Thanks!

Michelle77090
on 5/27/17 10:43 am
RNY on 04/04/17

Congratulations!

I CAN DO ALL THINGS THROUGH JESUS CHRIST, WHO STRENGTHENS ME!

HW:278

cw:185.6

GW:140

Cathy H.
on 5/27/17 10:59 am
VSG on 10/31/16

Thanks, Michelle!

Livin' La KETO Loca!!
134 lbs lost since surgery, 195 overall!! Initial goal reached 9/15/17, (10.5 months)!
5'3", SW*: 299 GW: 175 HW 3/2015: 360 PSW* 5/2016: 330 *PSW=Prog Start Wt; SW=Surgery Wt

M1 -31, M2 -10, M3 -15, M4 -16, M5 -8, M6 -6, M7 -11, M8 -8, M9 -8, M10 -4, M10.5 -7 GOAL

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