Question:
When you say sugar makes you sick...
When you say sugar makes you sick do you mean all types of sugar or just processed sugar or refined sugar...? Can you eat fresh fruit? I love fruit!! Can you eat fruit?? — Marie L. (posted on May 28, 2000)
May 28, 2000
I eat fruit! So far, fresh strawberries, watermelon, pineapple, bananas,
mangos and (I'm sure something else); and i've had the Dole pre-packaged
tropical fruits. No problems here.
— Toni B.
May 28, 2000
OH yea - can't forget those PRUNES - really need those these days!
— Toni B.
May 28, 2000
Marie: Oh yes, I love fresh fruit I keep all kinds in frig and in fruit
basket now.... and bake with fruit all the time now as a sugar
substitute like unsweetened applesauce.... Fruit does not bother me in
the least... Toni: Yes, to those prunes too I have 4 every morning
;-)
— Victoria B.
May 28, 2000
From my recent profile posting: I did some research on sugar absorption. I
had been afraid to eat any raw fruit, but had had 1/3 canned fruit in
natural juice since the start (although it was pureed, at first). I
discovered through research that the reason that this form of carbs / sugar
don't cause me to dump is that the sugar is already in water, which is then
wrapped in the fiber of the fruit. This seems to slow down the absorption
of the sugar into the body, so it doesn't hit the intestine all at once,
causing dumping. So == orange juice isn't safe, undiluted... but eating a
half an orange (I have eaten a whole small one without trouble), is fine.
Another interesting dumping research find: Scientist are finding that guar
gum when added to athe RNY post op diet immediately after sugar consumption
(50 g. in the test case -- MUCH more than any of US would dare!)is ceasing
the dumping symptoms. This is what is in iced milk with "no sugar
added" (there is sugar in the milk). Since dumping is a possible tool
of the surgery in behavior modification, it may be best that we DO dump. I
haven't had the displeasure, but am happy to know that guar gum may be a
fix if I do. ; )
— lisadiehl
May 29, 2000
The last thing I want to do is preach to WLS patients about what they
should and shouldnot do. The best thing I think we can do for others is to
tell them our experiences and what works for us. I agree totally with your
last statement about using "dumping" as a tool for consistent
weight loss. In my experience thus far (since 1/10/00), when I eat
something to cause "dumping," I don't touch that food ever again;
that is, if it's concentrated sugar. In fact, I get a little nauseous at
the thought of having that food. I have had "dumping" occur over
gulping water, so naturally, I can't stop drinking water. I think it must
be a mental thing, because I know sugar can be lethal, so I do avoid it for
the most part. You can't fool your own brain, but you certainly can have a
bad reaction to a food and just take a mental note to avoid that food in
the future. For me, this is how the "tool" works. Before I had
the surgery, I made up my mind that I would allow the surgery to dictate to
me how to eat and what to eato eat. I munch on a few cheese curls now and
then and I love crackers of any kind. For some reason, when I eat just a
few, I am as satisfied as though I had eaten a bag full. I really believe
that 90% of the MOs I have met are just like I was; not just addicted to
food but addicted to eating large amounts of food. The amount of food, for
some reason, was just as important. I am only 5 months out from surgery,
but already, I think less and less about amounts and more and more about
satiety with what I do eat. I hope this will be a help to folks who think
the way that I do\did about food. The WLS is not a cure to obesity, but I
do really look at it as a wonderful tool to find my way back to living
life, instead of existing for one new ailment after another.
— Louise H.
May 29, 2000
Hi Marie,
I am able to eat fruit of any kind. I try to stay away from the fruit
canned in "heavy syrup" as the sugar content is incredibly high.
I do eat canned fruit packed in it's "own juice" and don't have a
problem. I much prefer fresh fruit over the canned or processed type, any
fruit is usually alright for a post op RNY patient. As far as sugar
content in other foods go, depending on the amount of sugar in the food
will depend on if I have a severe dumping syndrome, a mild one or none at
all. I have eaten things that you would think would make you dump like
crazy but haven't affected me at all. Then there are the foods you think
would be safe and have sent me to bed with a horrible dumping syndrome.
And like another post, I keep in the back of my mind, a mental list of
those foods that make me dump really bad. I avoid them at all costs! Good
Luck to you...
— Marni
May 29, 2000
Hi. I have dumping syndrome. However, I have to eat over a certain
threshhold of sugar to get sick. The threshold is very low, but definite.
For example, I can occasionally eat a gummy bear or piece of licorice.
My experience has been that fresh fruit can trigger dumping syndrome, if I
eat too much. I have experimented with melon and strawberries and I can
eat about 1/4 cup, without getting sick. This really is not that much of
a hardship since I cannot eat very much anyway. LOL Beth.
— Elizabeth H.
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