Question:
I drink carbonated beverages...

ok, i know i shouldnt, and i know that i had this wls for a reason. but i DO drink carbonated beverages sometimes. not a lot. maybe once a week or so. and not a lot then. but i am worried of having stretched out my pouch. what is the cottage cheese test? i dont actually think i have stretched it out, i just think i eat too much according to 'other people'. i am not even three months out yet, and i have lost 59 lbs. is that good or no? am i on schedule, or what? i need advice on stretching out my pouch, and if i am on schedule or not, please advise me? ~redneck stephie~    — squeekypete (posted on August 13, 2006)


August 12, 2006
First each of us will lose at a different rate so please don't compare yourself to anyone else- you are unique! I was told that the pouch should be able to hold 2-3 oz and after the 1 yr mark about 6 oz. I recently read in OH magazine we should never eat more than 5 oz after having surgery. Now for the cottage cheese test- it can be found in Colleen Cook's Success Habits of Weight Loss Surgery Patients- buy a 16oz carton of small curd low fat cottage cheese -Eat fairly quickly until you feel full (about 5 min)- you essentially do not need to chew due to the small curds so the pouch should fill up before it begins to empty- you are now left with a partially empty carton of cottage cheese- Measure the left over cottage cheese into a 2 cup measuring container- then add water until the level reachs the original level the cottage cheese had in the container- the difference between what is left of the cottage cheese and the amount of water it takes to reach 16 oz is the functional size of your pouch. However- I would stay away from the carbonated beverages- to see what they will do take two balloons and some soda and GO OUTSIDE- pour some soda in a glass and let it go 'flat'- pour some of the fresh soda into a balloon- tie off the balloon and shake it up after the rest of the soda goes flat do the same thing with the other balloon- watch what happens in both cases to the balloons- and think of your pouch. Good luck. Donna 286/194/145 3 mo post op
   — dabby

August 13, 2006
I agree we should not drink carbonated soda too but I've read from other boards here that the analogy of soda in a balloon doesn't really apply because you tie off the balloon where the gas cannot escape but our pouches are not sealed off. We can still release that excess gas (burp/belch) so we cannot stretch out the pouch this way. That makes sense to me but I hear comments made from both sides on this issue. I wish I knew what the truth is.
   — Rick Bedard

August 13, 2006
I was allowed carbonation after 6 months. I occasionally also have a coke zero, onc e or twice a month. I am maintaining well. You pouch will stretch. it is supposed to, You couldnt' live on a couple oz of food forever. I was told to expect to eat 1 - 1 1/2 cups of food at one year and that is pretty accurate as to where I was, and still very close to what I eat at a meal now. 3 months and 59 pounds is amazing to me. that is close to where I was, maybe a little more. I have lost 130 and am at a really nice weight for me, since plastics I am a size 8 which just stuns me when I think about it. I am almost 4 years out and maintaining very well. If I were you I would take it easy on the carbonation, but mainly because it fills you up on something that isn't providing nutrients for your body. I don't mean that as a critisism at all, just a suggestion, so you can keep our health uip. I posted a bunch of nutritional info on my rofile, clos to the bottom.
   — **willow**

August 13, 2006
just wanted to add, balloons over a glass of pop do not belch or fart and I do. My pouch has 2 openings, one at the top and one at the bottom. put 2 holes in the balloon and then see what happens.
   — **willow**

August 13, 2006
First, listen to the other sensible posters here who explained that soda will not cause your pouch to stretch. Secondly, the cottage cheese test is a farce-- there is just no way that trying to gague how full you feel based upon cottage cheese will be an accurate test of how big your pouch is. You don't know what food remnants are left in the pouch from the day before which could limit emptying. You have no way of knowing the relative density of the cottage cheese so you have no way of knowing how quickly it should empty. There are just far too many variables for this allged "cottage cheese" to be accurate. Now, here is the other thing to consider-- if you stretched out your pouch, what can you do about it now, except measure your food and be very vigilent about slowly eating your controlled portions. If you haven't stretched out your pouch, you will still need to measure your food and be very vigilentg about slowly eating your controlled portions. So, why take a test if the results are not going to change your behavior?
   — SteveColarossi

August 13, 2006
Congrats on the weight loss...as far as the soda goes, I was drinking diet pepsi for the longest, then I started doing some research on this site and discovered an amazingly WIDE variety of possibilites, so I limit myself to 1 diet pepsi every few days and at all other times I drink Fruit Punch Crystal Light. I just don't want to take any chances. Also, just FYI...my doctor told me that after my surgery, I needed to watch for liquid calories and to be sure to only drink diet soda, no regular, of course, I dump so easy, regular soda would never be an option for me anyway! But in my opinion (which may not mean much) why would my doctor allow me to drink something that would stretch out my pouch? Something to think about, after all, he is the professional! Good Luck!
   — TraciB06

August 14, 2006
If half the surgeons out there say no carbonated beverages and half say it's okay, then we are left to medical guessing. The "stats" that say that 52% of successful wls patients don't drink carbonated beverages - well, what about the other 48%? Is that discounted? And they don't specify between diet and regular, so would it stand to reason the other 4% difference might be those who are drinking sugared sodas? Perhaps. The point is that we all have to do what we need to do to make this livable for ourselves. For some, eliminating carbonated beverages makes them feel better, so great - do it. But if you just gotta have it, try it out - see how you feel and work with it to make it work for you. I decided from the outset that I was going to make this work for me. What that means is throwing the dieting ritual out the window. When I feel something is off limits, I will crave and desire it all the more and want to gorge on it when I "cheat." Now this is not right out of the starting gate because you have to follow certain rules to begin with, but to make a long term solution, I had to figure out what would help me be more "normal" so that I could not have my whole life focused around food. So I drink diet soda sometimes. And a lot of times, I rarely finish it, but I enjoy it from time to time. I have learned moderation by doing this method, because there is nothing I cannot have. So I don't obsess over it. Now, as for a stretched pouch, I started out with a 4 oz pouch. I guess my anatomy made it so I ended up on the larger size. So I was obsessed with how much I could eat for a long time. I finally learned to not worry so much about it. I never ate until I threw up and I tried to pay attention to the full feeling. I was 325 to start (338 was my highest) and I am now 185. Yeah, I'd like to lose 20-30 more, but I'm not obsessing on it. I am living my life and doing my best and every couple of months I lose a pound or so. Took me a year to lose the last 10 lbs, but that's okay because my focus now is to not gain and to learn to live with this in the best way for me. So try not to worry so much and just focus on listening to being full and not snacking. I am of the camp that believes carbonated beverages won't cause your pouch to stretch, although it can be uncomfortable for some people. But too much food will do more damage than carbonation. Just my personal opinion....Good luck!
   — Dinka Doo

August 14, 2006
Stephanie for an idea of how much weight you could be loosing try OH page http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/information/post+op+planner.php
   — Steve Etherton

August 14, 2006
Stephanie, I understand hoe hard it is to give things up after WLS....I do! But what I would offer to you is: are you getting enough water? Water is so key to weight loss and maintaining weight loss. As for carbonated beverages, the truth is there is NOTHING in there that is good for you. Nothing. It depletes your bones which can lead to osteoporosis. And I agree with other posters who say do not compare yourself to others. Just eat your correct amount of food, exercise, drink water and try not to obsess on what others are doing. Just do your best for you!!!!!
   — Mrs. Crabapple

August 15, 2006
Stephanie here! Thank yall for your input. Yep, I do get in a LOT of water. And when I do drink pop, I drink so little of it. For instance, my friend and I had dinner the other nite, and I had a can of pop with dinner, I took it home with me, because there was still about half left, and then yesterday I dumped it out because I had never finished it. I do that ALL the time with this stuff, I dont think I have finished a pop since wls. I do need to start getting in more protien though. Thanks yall! ~redneck stephie~
   — squeekypete

August 17, 2006
My nutritionist said that the act of belcing stretches your stomach out,. My niece, though, also had the op, and she drinks and eats everything, and she has lost loads of weight and looks great! I do not drink any soda, because I figure why start. I am now used to not having it, and it does not boether me. although I drank lots of Diet Sprite before my op. they say that the sweeteneer in diet soda actually makes you hungrier, and the sugar in regular soda is too much for me. You are averaging about twenty pounds per month, which is really good! Congratulations!
   — Novashannon




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